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Parsing the Language, or Questionable Arguments, Part III

In response to my post on AUMF and FISA, Will Baude provides two things. First, he gives us a wonderfully short paragraph to recap the argument:

The President maintains 1, that his warrantless wiretaps do not violate the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act because FISA was implicitly repealed in part by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force, and 2, that it is vital that the PATRIOT Act be renewed.

After that, however, he proceeds to push his argument by parsing some words far too finely. He argues that the President's recent press conference shows that the PATRIOT Act "is needed to fend off Al-Qaeda and its collaborators, not some other group of terrorists that had nothing to do with 9/11," and thus is wholly redundant if the President believes what he's saying about AUMF. The words in question?
These Senators need to explain why they thought the Patriot Act was a vital tool after the Sept. 11 attacks but - but now think it's no longer necessary.

The terrorists want to strike America again. And they hope to inflict even greater damage than they did on Sept. 11.


This is silly for two reasons. First of all, the idea that (a) Congress could not have intended and (b) the President did not (and does not) contemplate the Patriot Act being useful against other terrorist groups, and thus of independent importance from AUMF, is not easily rebutted by the obsessive parsing of a presidential press conference. Suffice it to say that addresses to the White House press corp, calculated to spin well and get good soundbite, are not the stuff from which to divine the actual intentions of political actors when they pushed for a law several years ago. Is it useful to tie the Patriot Act to Al-Qaeda now? Certainly. Was that its exclusive intended ambit? Probably not.

Secondly, it ignores the fact that (as even Marty Lederman noted) there are areas in the Patriot Act that would certainly not be covered by AUMF. Both Baude and Lederman presume that the President was talking about acts covered in the AUMF/FISA relationship, but they give no reason for such exclusion. The interplay between the two statutes involves little more than the issue of wiretapping, while the Patriot Act puts forward a broader regulatory scheme.

But the true "let's parse a press conference like we would a statute" award goes to this argument of Lederman's, again linked to approvingly by Baude:

One of the parties to an intercepted communication is not (or need not be) in any way affiliated with, or part of, Al Qaeda, nor in any way connected to the attacks of 9/11. It could be you, or me, or our grandparents.

What about the other party to the communication? Here's what the Attorney General said:

"Another very important point to remember is that we have to have a reasonable basis to conclude that one party to the communication is a member of al Qaeda, affiliated with al Qaeda, or a member of an organization affiliated with al Qaeda, or working in support of al Qaeda."

"To the extent that there is a moderate and heavy communication involving an American citizen, it would be a communication where the other end of the call is outside the United States and where we believe that either the American citizen or the person outside the United States is somehow affiliated with al Qaeda."

"It is tied to communications where we believe one of the parties is affiliated with al Qaeda or part of an organization or group that is supportive of al Qaeda."


I don't think it's hard to understand from these carefully phrased formulations that many of the communications in question -- say, a phone call from me to someone who is not part of Al Qaeda, or working with Al Qaeda, but who is "part of" an organization "supportive of" Al Qaeda -- are between two people, neither of whom is covered under the terms of the AUMF. (Thanks to David Barron for bringing these broad formulations to my attention.)

(emphasis in original) Through this, Baude is trying to prove that "[I]t's not at all clear that the President and his Attorney General share Anthony's belief about the narrow scope of AUMF."

AUMF authorizes the use of force against "those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons" (emphasis mine) Inconsistency only arises if the organizations "related to" or "supportive of" Al Qaeda (in the Attorney General's speech) were not also organizations that "aided" or "harbored" Al Qaeda prior to September 11, 2001.[1] Is the AG saying that the wiretaps covered groups outside the conjunction of those two sets? True, as Baude says, "it's not clear." But it's not outside the bounds of possibility that the AG used different terms for the same idea.

It's ridiculous to parse a press briefing spun to non-lawyers and reporters, even if given by the Attorney General, and expect it to precisely match the text of a statute. This is a good thing, too: read any statute out loud, and you'll quickly see that using statutory language in a press briefing would make them even more soporific than normal. Does the AG interpret AUMF more broadly than its language would allow? Maybe, but you can't really tell without more information on who was tapped (and how). We don't have that.

Of course, all this is fairly well tangential to Baude's real heartbreak:

It is possible that the administration will eventually decide to reconcile the two positions, but at the moment it is showing no sign of even trying to pretend that there is a theory of legal interpretation (other than national security purposivism) at work here.

I sincerely hope that Baude lives to see a presidency that puts forward a consistent theory of legal interpretation in its press conferences. For this to be a workable strategy in this age of mass media and television, the majority of Americans must become lawyers who worry more about consistency in legal interpretation than the pragmatic "purposivism." Such purposivism is, of course, the natural outgrowth of a polity that regards its own safety more highly than the fine points of intellectual consistency.

(Come to think of it, if it takes that many lawyers maybe I don't hope Baude lives to see it.)

That's not to say that a consistent theory isn't discernable from the administration's actions, but that looking for it during a glorified photo op is probably a fool's errand.

[1]: Those who harbored or aided Al Qaeda after September 11, 2001 would not seem subject to AUMF. This, of course, immediately points out one more absurdity with Baude's claim that Bush's use of "the terrorists" in his press conference must mean individuals to whom AUMF applies. Baude's assertion makes logical sense only if you are willing to think "the terrorists" means Al Qaeda to the exclusion of any groups that might have allied themselves with Bin Laden in the last few years. I humbly submit that anyone who thinks press conferences should be parsed that closely overestimates the precision of political speechwriting.

Comments

I am willing to lay a wager that it will soon emerge that the President's AUMF wiretaps indeed extended to conversations not conducted by those who belonged to an organization that aided Osama and co. pre-9/11. In any case, we seem to be in agreement on facts and law-- the President's press conference does not rise to the standard of a legal brief. We disagree only in what implications to draw from this. If we are going to have a president who fetishizes the independent constitutional authority of the president, it would be nice if he acted like an independent constitutional interpreter. Jefferson Davis and George Washington weren't lawyers, but they managed it.
Not in an age of mass-market media, CNN, and the twenty-four hour news cycle, they didn't. If that's what you're hoping for, you're a century or so too late.
So the unfortunate 21st century president is disabled by CNN from describing a coherent theory of presidential power to the masses, but does he have such a theory for elitist consumption? perhaps lying in some Justice Department memos?
PG: Well, he is if he wants to simultaneously satisfy (a) his electorate and (b) Will Baude. Consider this press conference. The "inconsistency" Baude complains of only comes around if you interpret "terrorist" (in the President's speech) to mean "Al Qaeda" exclusively. Now, I suppose it's possible that the President could have said, "Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups" in order to be perfectly and utterly clear that he was being perfectly and utterly consistent. But press conferences are not where you go to get that level of clarity. Had Lincoln and Davis been dealing w/ the same kind of news media, they'd be guilty of the same "inconsistency," simply because press conferences are not given to precision.
The "again" and the "inflict even greater damage than they did on September 11" from the President's speech suggest that the problem is not sloppy writing but sloppy thinking. He really does appear to be arguing that the PATRIOT Act is a critical tool in fighting off Al-Qaeda. If the argument is that the PATRIOT Act would be useful in fending off other unrelated groups that are also planning to strike soon, or that the AUMF has an important gap because it doesn't extend to post-9/11 allies of Al Qaeda (although I think Bush would disagree with the latter), the President doesn't appear to say so. Indeed, I'm not even sure he thinks so. Anyway, I'm with PG. Lying for the cameras is fine so long as the president really is trying to execute the laws and interpret the constitution. I increasingly doubt that this is so.
Sigh... Will, I sincerely doubt you actually live up to the standard you're setting for others. Not because you're not smart, but because it's practically superhuman. The AUMF/FISA argument isn't part of the President's speech. His words aren't "sloppy" (well, no more clunky than normal) but simply not transferable into another context and another argument. You're engaging in "gotcha" criticism at its best. Tell you what: when you're here in NYC for the Fed Soc convention, let me tape everything you say. Then we'll take the transcription of that and see if I can make an "inconsistency" by combining your spoken words and something on your blog. No one is "lying" for the cameras. The speech isn't "sloppy." You can't make an argument out of it without using weasel-words like "suggests" to prove that the President's words mean what you say they mean, despite a consistent interpretation being available. Language is not that precise. Actually, I seem to remember that if I parse you to that level of accuracy, you get quite snippy.
I sincerely doubt you actually live up to the standard you're setting for others. I'm also not the President, charged with a duty to defend the constitution and take care that the laws be faithfully executed, nor am I equipped with the world's largest and most competent arsenal of executive-branch-legal-thought. But the bigger point, which I appear to be rendering unclearly, is this: If this turns out to be merely a few careless slips of the tongue or o'er-hasty speeches here and there, then I really do not much care. Elected officials say lots of things. My fear, and I am increasingly coming to believe it is a justified fear, is that the President's remarks here and elsewhere really are accurate renditions of his "theory" of statutory and constitutional interpretation. Legal realists may not care, but I'm not one, and do.
Added Clarification: It really isn't about parsing executive-branch speeches with a fine-toothed comb and syllogistic impatience. So to the extent I give the impression that I mean to be engaging in grade-school gotcha, I apologize. But I am genuinely unclear-- on a broad range of War on Terror Issues-- as to whether the president thinks he has all of the statutory power he needs to effectively Keep Us Safe, or whether the president thinks that it is imperative that Congress Act Now to Save Us.
Legal realists may not care, but I'm not one, and do. In which case, I must pause and ask: what the heck did you expect? There hasn't been a President whose view of executive power hasn't been usefully described as "realist" in living memory. As I've mentioned before on this issue, what's going on here doesn't seem to be anything new: unless you're one of the folks who've been participating in Echelon Day for a number of years, the idea that the government engages in large-scale data mining isn't novel. Further, George W. "Compassionate Conservatism" Bush has always been a realist politically. The entire War on Terror seems to have been conducted in this manner: (a) determine what you need to get the job done; (b) find a way to justify this in legal terms. Maybe this is an "MBA president" characteristic, but I certainly wouldn't have found it to be unexpected.
unless you're one of the folks who've been participating in Echelon Day for a number of years, the idea that the government engages in large-scale data mining isn't novel. Yipes... sorry about incoherency. That "unless" should be an "if". . .
Maybe this is an "MBA president" characteristic, but I certainly wouldn't have found it to be unexpected. I am fully prepared to concede my own naivete. But I don't see why the fact that I should have expected it makes it any better.
The entire War on Terror seems to have been conducted in this manner: (a) determine what you need to get the job done; (b) find a way to justify this in legal terms. But this still doesn't explain why Bush would proffer a multitude of legal arguments for his justification. Do you think that if Congress didn't reauthorize the PATRIOT Act, Bush would cease to exercise the powers that he claims he has under Article II and AUMF anyway?
PG: Perhaps not. Perhaps, if the language of the law were different, Bush would offer different justifications in the (legal) arguments for the powers he chooses to recognize. Nevertheless, the current legal paradigm makes AUMF/Article II a good avenue of argument. (Well, AUMF is a relatively good avenue of argument, and Article II is a "you keep insisting it so it's not cut off completely" tactic, really, but you get my drift.) If the prevailing form of legal argument were different, then perhaps the President would take a different tact. If, in the absence of blatantly realist decisions like Lawrence, the kind of consistency that Baude desires prevailed, maybe the executive would argue in such a manner. But given a realist court and a realist congress, the only name for a non-realist administration would be "former President." The problem I have with Baude isn't that he's disappointed with the President, but that he would be disappointed with every president in living memory. It's not much good to say the executive should live up to a standard that is, frankly, unelectable.
PG: But this still doesn't explain why Bush would proffer a multitude of legal arguments for his justification. This is an argument in form similar to Baude's original one: "The strategy of the President isn't the one I would use, and I don't see the point in the strategy. Therefore, it must not be the president's strategy, because it would make no sense." Mr. Tanski's first comment above shows why one uses a multitude of different legal arguments: argument in the alternative is the name of the game, because you only really need to have one justification work. (And presidents always argue for expansive Article II powers: given the functionalism that is at the heart of much current Constitutional jurisprudence, and the fact that the Court watches for "encroachment" from other branches, it's in each branch's interest to stake the widest possible claim of power. After all, if you stake a smaller claim, the other branches aren't encroaching when they enlarge theirs.
I get Tanski's argument from the perspective of the advocate, but it ends up conflicting with the perspective of the government actor. The government actor wants to assert the widest possible scope for his powers; the advocate throws out an array of arguments that and hopes one of them sticks to justify a specific act. If the government actor says, "I need the PATRIOT Act to exercise certain powers," then he is admitting that Congress must authorize actions that he otherwise would declare to be within Art. II. The advocate is working on the one case, and if the argument that sticks is one that would foreclose other things that the client will do in the future -- well, those other things can be litigated by other attorneys. The "realism" of the Court seems likely to play in Bush's favor, anyway; judging by the decisions they've rendered on the War on Terror thus far, Scalia is the only one who would go as far as the modern equivalent of Ex Parte Merryman or Milligan. (Nice job bringing Lawrence in -- I wouldn't have thought a decision on privacy could be used to support claims about the power to have warrantless wiretaps.)

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